KnightWRX
Apr 15, 02:47 PM
Ahhh.... Google bought that. And given Android is based on open source, don't you think your argument on OSX is rather weak?
Apple bought OS X too. :D
I'm arguing that both were massive undertakings by both parties. My OS X example was tainted with sarcasm if you didn't catch the little :rolleyes: there.
Both OS X and Chrome OS (and Android, and iOS) borrow heavily from others, either through acquisitions or from the open source community. To claim Google is any inferior here is just trying to stir the pot, especially calling the poster Troll, that is just insulting and uncalled for.
Both companies deserve props from providing the software they do, neither deserves scorn that some posters here like to dish out.
ChromeOS has pieces of Linux...I'll give you that. But Google didn't do much...
Android is Linux. They didn't make that either.
So what ? OS X is Mach/XNU, Apple didn't make that. It's also a GNU/Berkeley userland, Apple didn't make that either. Again guys, drop the non-sense competition, this thread is about a release of OS X, not some type of Google bashing contest.
Apple bought OS X too. :D
I'm arguing that both were massive undertakings by both parties. My OS X example was tainted with sarcasm if you didn't catch the little :rolleyes: there.
Both OS X and Chrome OS (and Android, and iOS) borrow heavily from others, either through acquisitions or from the open source community. To claim Google is any inferior here is just trying to stir the pot, especially calling the poster Troll, that is just insulting and uncalled for.
Both companies deserve props from providing the software they do, neither deserves scorn that some posters here like to dish out.
ChromeOS has pieces of Linux...I'll give you that. But Google didn't do much...
Android is Linux. They didn't make that either.
So what ? OS X is Mach/XNU, Apple didn't make that. It's also a GNU/Berkeley userland, Apple didn't make that either. Again guys, drop the non-sense competition, this thread is about a release of OS X, not some type of Google bashing contest.
twoodcc
Oct 29, 12:32 PM
guess what came into work yesterday
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9518/screenshot20091029at102.th.png (http://img255.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20091029at102.png/)
dang. will you be folding with it?
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9518/screenshot20091029at102.th.png (http://img255.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20091029at102.png/)
dang. will you be folding with it?
basesloaded190
Apr 13, 02:00 PM
Highly unlike that Apple will release an actual tv. More probable are televsions from major manufacturers that have air play functionality built in.
This. I can see manufacturers adopting Airplay or eventually adopting something more sophisticated like actual software from apple to mimic that of the Apple TV
This. I can see manufacturers adopting Airplay or eventually adopting something more sophisticated like actual software from apple to mimic that of the Apple TV
ScottInTheOC
Mar 17, 10:21 AM
Spectrum only got 12 units today, 6 16gb black wifi and 6 32gb black wifi - I got the 12th voucher - for a 16gb black wifi!
what time did you get there this morning? Looks like it was a good thing I didn't head out, 12 units isn't very much...
what time did you get there this morning? Looks like it was a good thing I didn't head out, 12 units isn't very much...
Paul Graham
Jan 31, 03:52 PM
Why have a Canon and a Nikon? Does that not mean you have to buy lenses for both?
Why not?
I have lenses for both, But I do have numerous adaptors that let me use my entire lens collection on all my cameras.
So I do save money in that sense.
Why do people have two or more computers, An xbox AND a ps3 etc etc etc.....
both cameras have their pros and cons, And I utilize both for their pros!
As I do with my film slr's.
Plus... I also collect cameras, Hense why i have more than one film cam.
Why not?
I have lenses for both, But I do have numerous adaptors that let me use my entire lens collection on all my cameras.
So I do save money in that sense.
Why do people have two or more computers, An xbox AND a ps3 etc etc etc.....
both cameras have their pros and cons, And I utilize both for their pros!
As I do with my film slr's.
Plus... I also collect cameras, Hense why i have more than one film cam.
MeisterFritz
Apr 1, 07:04 AM
This is the absolute worst winter in the New England states that I can recall. I am disenchanted by any more snow and look forward to some warmth. The symbolism is in the image!
Dubthedankest
Mar 15, 09:35 AM
Be sure to let us know if any of those stores have product. Out of all the stores I've seen that have opened early today, none have had product. Which, of course, begs the question 'why in the hell are you opening early then?'
OriginalMacRat
May 3, 11:52 PM
I'm trying to old out with my cracked screen 3GS. Not sure I can wait until September...
Most 3rd party shops will replace the 3GS screen for $50.
Take it to the Apple Store and they'll replace it for $99.
Most 3rd party shops will replace the 3GS screen for $50.
Take it to the Apple Store and they'll replace it for $99.
Davieis
Sep 16, 02:53 AM
New pair of kicks...Nike Air Force 1 Mids.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5707302/41-01975.jpg.png
My first iPhone.. (3GS Black)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5707302/Screen%20shot%202010-09-16%20at%205.49.00%20PM.png
And a dock for it..
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5707302/MB484_AV2.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5707302/41-01975.jpg.png
My first iPhone.. (3GS Black)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5707302/Screen%20shot%202010-09-16%20at%205.49.00%20PM.png
And a dock for it..
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5707302/MB484_AV2.jpg
Mexbearpig
Jan 31, 07:22 PM
Playdoh was on sale and the book was half price :cool:.
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k575/julian4444/IMG_20110131_200615.jpg
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k575/julian4444/IMG_20110131_200615.jpg
Apple all life
Jan 27, 06:49 PM
To add to my post-workout recovery drink:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HQMqZSk3L._AA300_PIbundle-1,TopRight,0,0AA300_SH20_.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H0Rwu8BvL._AA300_PIbundle-1,TopRight,0,0AA300_SH20_.jpg
My post-workout recovery drink:
http://www.jonnyrash.com/img/sandbox/organic-valley-chocolate-milk.jpg
After researching, I discovered that chocolate milk has the same carb to protein ratio that expensive recovery drink mixes have (such as the P90X Recovery Drink). So, instead of spending around $60/month, I've elected to go with the chocolate milk, and to add a few supplements that are important for muscle recovery (which are found in those expensive drinks). Any excuse to drink chocolate milk is a good one.
SMRT
My moms boyfriend did alot of research and some tests about it. I used to play paintball and he always told me to drink chocolate milk after and sometimes during.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HQMqZSk3L._AA300_PIbundle-1,TopRight,0,0AA300_SH20_.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H0Rwu8BvL._AA300_PIbundle-1,TopRight,0,0AA300_SH20_.jpg
My post-workout recovery drink:
http://www.jonnyrash.com/img/sandbox/organic-valley-chocolate-milk.jpg
After researching, I discovered that chocolate milk has the same carb to protein ratio that expensive recovery drink mixes have (such as the P90X Recovery Drink). So, instead of spending around $60/month, I've elected to go with the chocolate milk, and to add a few supplements that are important for muscle recovery (which are found in those expensive drinks). Any excuse to drink chocolate milk is a good one.
SMRT
My moms boyfriend did alot of research and some tests about it. I used to play paintball and he always told me to drink chocolate milk after and sometimes during.
mojohanna
Oct 18, 06:28 PM
Having looked at the numbers in more detail it is interesting that compared to the year ago quarter desktop sales are relatively static and pretty much all the growth in mac shipments is in the portable lines. Good to see Apple add 1bn to revenue anyhow.
Due to late intro of the mac Pro. I would bet that desktops will increase in sales for Q1
Due to late intro of the mac Pro. I would bet that desktops will increase in sales for Q1
DeathChill
Apr 23, 06:37 PM
Wouldn't it be nice for you guys if iPhone 5 came out on every carrier?
KnightWRX
Apr 22, 09:44 AM
It's interesting how many people blast Apple. They completely retooled the smart phone/mobile phone platform.
Who's blasting Apple ? This shouldn't be an emotional discussion about the history of both corporations, this is about a specific case/cases. As such it should be rooted in facts and objective commentary, not in some subjective tangeant ranting like you went on.
Granted some of Samsung's phone are worse than others.
Blatant copying.
The copying isn't so blatant, and it's highly model dependant. Some biased Apple media is making it look worse than it is with cherry picked images. Here's a post where I clear up the muddied waters a bit :
Depends on which model. The AT&T/Rogers Galaxy S Captivate hardly ressembles the iPhone :
http://www.droiddog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/att-samsung-captivate-photo-1.jpg
I'm also hard-pressed to see how the Nexus S comes even close :
http://blog.eches.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/samsung-nexus-s.jpg
Let's not even go there with the Epic 4G :
http://handies.phandroid.com/media/samsung-epic-4g-1288875927-196.jpg
Yet they are all included in the complaint...
And here's one about the famous Icon grid :
I'd say even the icon grid claim is reaching. The pictures shown all show the Android application drawer. The actual home screen on Galaxy S devices, what shows up after unlocking, is not the icon grid with a dock. You have to dig into the phone to get to the grid of icons, which frankly again has been shown to be a pretty standard phone UI. Older Palm/Sony models had the "icon grid" UIs in their phones also. :
http://www.extragsm.com/images/phone/big/Sony%20Ericsson/T610/Sony-Ericsson-T610-01.png
http://www.mobileincanada.com/images/unlock/att-palm-treo-600.jpg
Let's face it, the "icon grid" has been a UI for quite a while now :
http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/p/progman.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/jzzc53.png
http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/system/managers/filemanager/cde15solaris9.png
To claim "Blatant copying" at this point is only to get eat whatever the media is feeding you. The courts will decide how much Samsung does or doesn't infringe on Apple's various trademarks and the trade dress claims.
Who's blasting Apple ? This shouldn't be an emotional discussion about the history of both corporations, this is about a specific case/cases. As such it should be rooted in facts and objective commentary, not in some subjective tangeant ranting like you went on.
Granted some of Samsung's phone are worse than others.
Blatant copying.
The copying isn't so blatant, and it's highly model dependant. Some biased Apple media is making it look worse than it is with cherry picked images. Here's a post where I clear up the muddied waters a bit :
Depends on which model. The AT&T/Rogers Galaxy S Captivate hardly ressembles the iPhone :
http://www.droiddog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/att-samsung-captivate-photo-1.jpg
I'm also hard-pressed to see how the Nexus S comes even close :
http://blog.eches.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/samsung-nexus-s.jpg
Let's not even go there with the Epic 4G :
http://handies.phandroid.com/media/samsung-epic-4g-1288875927-196.jpg
Yet they are all included in the complaint...
And here's one about the famous Icon grid :
I'd say even the icon grid claim is reaching. The pictures shown all show the Android application drawer. The actual home screen on Galaxy S devices, what shows up after unlocking, is not the icon grid with a dock. You have to dig into the phone to get to the grid of icons, which frankly again has been shown to be a pretty standard phone UI. Older Palm/Sony models had the "icon grid" UIs in their phones also. :
http://www.extragsm.com/images/phone/big/Sony%20Ericsson/T610/Sony-Ericsson-T610-01.png
http://www.mobileincanada.com/images/unlock/att-palm-treo-600.jpg
Let's face it, the "icon grid" has been a UI for quite a while now :
http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/p/progman.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/jzzc53.png
http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/system/managers/filemanager/cde15solaris9.png
To claim "Blatant copying" at this point is only to get eat whatever the media is feeding you. The courts will decide how much Samsung does or doesn't infringe on Apple's various trademarks and the trade dress claims.
themacolyte
Oct 23, 07:54 AM
Microsoft seems to be making every attempt to encourage piracy at this point. Is it possible for Windows to check this and refuse to run? It seems to me Microsoft is attempting to take control of hardware virally, i.e. if their EULAs were enforceable they are including statements that allow them to dictate what hardware you have and when/how you upgrade it...
"If you want to upgrade your computer, you need to call and ask us first. If you want to run our software, it better be on hardware we approve of, ask us who sells that."
There are some who claim that as long as Microsoft doesn't enforce their own EULAs then let them say what they want. Some will claim that the EULAs won't hold up in court so who cares what they say. Is it prudent to assume this and just hope for the best?
"If you want to upgrade your computer, you need to call and ask us first. If you want to run our software, it better be on hardware we approve of, ask us who sells that."
There are some who claim that as long as Microsoft doesn't enforce their own EULAs then let them say what they want. Some will claim that the EULAs won't hold up in court so who cares what they say. Is it prudent to assume this and just hope for the best?
gnasher729
Oct 24, 05:01 AM
I have no issues with having the software installed once, although Apple allowing certain products to be installed on a desktop AND a laptop is great. But, I do not steal software. I really like what Apple does with their 'Family Packs'. You can add ~ 25-30% to the price and install it on five machines. That is great marketing and very fair.
Since I don't have a "Family Pack": Could you have a look at the license and check whether it would allow installing on three Macs plus in a virtual machine on two of these Macs for a total of five copies?
Since I don't have a "Family Pack": Could you have a look at the license and check whether it would allow installing on three Macs plus in a virtual machine on two of these Macs for a total of five copies?
rnelan7
Nov 28, 09:12 PM
Finally narrowed it down to a Shady McCoy jersey, Apple TV and a WD Elements 2tb. Merry Christmas everyone!
patliean1
Sep 30, 08:31 AM
Sadly, as long as the Apple fanboys continue to flock to the iPhone unconditionally AT&T will have little to no reason to upgrade the quality of their service.
maclaptop
Apr 15, 08:26 PM
I hope this OS is to be bought & downloaded through the App Store.
Why the app store?
Why the app store?
lbro
Apr 22, 06:18 PM
Who thumbed down every post on this page?
Except one from aggie...
Except one from aggie...
-aggie-
Apr 29, 04:15 PM
You're just trying to quiet the only voice that figured you out. Getting rid of me smooths your sail all the way to a WW victory.
Uh, no.
Once they vote you off and find you are a WW, there will be no questions. Or they can vote me off now, and you can kill someone else tonight. Their call, but I doubt anyone is going to be influenced by this act, especially after your earlier posts.
Uh, no.
Once they vote you off and find you are a WW, there will be no questions. Or they can vote me off now, and you can kill someone else tonight. Their call, but I doubt anyone is going to be influenced by this act, especially after your earlier posts.
zap2
Jul 24, 11:16 AM
50%? Did you forget how much Macs cost? One of the main reasons Dell has such a huge market share is because they are so cost effective and come with great bundles aimed at the average person. 50% of computer users could never afford a Mac.
If Apple can come up with bundles that include a monitor, printer, and scanner while still managing to be priced competitively with Dell then theyd have a chance at Dell level marketshare. Bundling iPods with Macs could be a great program for Apple as well. But they are very far away from offering anything close to what Dell does for that price, and thats what the average person wants (I doubt they are the least bit concerned with Windows, they just want a computer with everything they need).
Apple offers the programs people want, but theyre useless without the hardware to use the programs. They should do more to make it easier for non-computer people to get everything they need at a decent price (unlike shopping through dell.com which gets you good deals on a lot of stuff, shopping through Apple seems to cost more than if you bought the crap seperately)
Many people who buy PC buy pricy ones.. were they could buy a Mac for the price of the Dell/HP/ect
That said i doubt Apple will have 50% of the market in the next few years simply becase that would mean Mac sales would need to up but a ton AND PC sales would be to pretty much stop. Also that would be more then any hardwre maker currently has... look for 10% in the next few years
If Apple can come up with bundles that include a monitor, printer, and scanner while still managing to be priced competitively with Dell then theyd have a chance at Dell level marketshare. Bundling iPods with Macs could be a great program for Apple as well. But they are very far away from offering anything close to what Dell does for that price, and thats what the average person wants (I doubt they are the least bit concerned with Windows, they just want a computer with everything they need).
Apple offers the programs people want, but theyre useless without the hardware to use the programs. They should do more to make it easier for non-computer people to get everything they need at a decent price (unlike shopping through dell.com which gets you good deals on a lot of stuff, shopping through Apple seems to cost more than if you bought the crap seperately)
Many people who buy PC buy pricy ones.. were they could buy a Mac for the price of the Dell/HP/ect
That said i doubt Apple will have 50% of the market in the next few years simply becase that would mean Mac sales would need to up but a ton AND PC sales would be to pretty much stop. Also that would be more then any hardwre maker currently has... look for 10% in the next few years
Mord
Apr 24, 03:15 PM
But most reasonable people should realize that being drunk in the ghetto as a transgendered guy isn't the brightest idea.
Again, you're simply being offensive by referring to her as a "transgendered guy", never mind the fact that the whole mentality of victim blaming works on EXACTLY those principles.
Women who are raped often would not have been raped had they dressed differently or avoided a certain area, is it their fault now? Victim blaming is victim blaming, she had the right to enter that establishment and use the loos she did, she was attacked for it. The only people in the wrong were the attackers and arguably the staff for not intervening
Are you seriously suggesting that this woman should just stay at home rather than risk going outside because her very nature could inflame people to attack her?
Are you implying that black underprivileged people can't handle transsexuality, but white middle class people can? This **** happens everywhere, it even happened in san francisco about a month ago.
Your whole mentality is downright offensive.
Again, you're simply being offensive by referring to her as a "transgendered guy", never mind the fact that the whole mentality of victim blaming works on EXACTLY those principles.
Women who are raped often would not have been raped had they dressed differently or avoided a certain area, is it their fault now? Victim blaming is victim blaming, she had the right to enter that establishment and use the loos she did, she was attacked for it. The only people in the wrong were the attackers and arguably the staff for not intervening
Are you seriously suggesting that this woman should just stay at home rather than risk going outside because her very nature could inflame people to attack her?
Are you implying that black underprivileged people can't handle transsexuality, but white middle class people can? This **** happens everywhere, it even happened in san francisco about a month ago.
Your whole mentality is downright offensive.
Snowy_River
Jul 12, 01:07 AM
At $79 a year it will probably be 5 years before the program moves to a commonly useful level where it may have the ability to replace MS Office. The very casual Word Processor user will not have to wait very long, maybe Pages 3 or Pages 4. With the 5 X $79 = $395 we move into the price range of the non-educational price of MS Office. But for the heavy Office user, 5 years may not be long enough...
Hmm... Let's start with the idea of present value. $79 spent a year from now isn't worth $79 today. So, $79 a year for the next five years is actually only worth $300-$361 (assuming a possible APR of between 3% and 10%). Now, that's compared with $399.95 for Office. Hmm. But there's another factor here. If a given upgrade doesn't have any features that are compelling to you, you don't have to get it. Wow! That would mean that iWork would be even less!
Now, all of that being said, of course if iWork isn't functional for you now you shouldn't get it. But if it is, as this thread has shown that there are a lot of us out here for whom it, in fact, is, then there's no reason for us not to get it. So, all around, I'd argue that iWork is a cost savings over MS Office, even if you upgrade every time.
Plus, if all you need to make it a worthwhile office suite is a spreadsheet, then there are a variety of options at various price points. These include OpenOffice Calc, KOffice KSpread (both free), Mariner Calc, etc.
Hmm... Let's start with the idea of present value. $79 spent a year from now isn't worth $79 today. So, $79 a year for the next five years is actually only worth $300-$361 (assuming a possible APR of between 3% and 10%). Now, that's compared with $399.95 for Office. Hmm. But there's another factor here. If a given upgrade doesn't have any features that are compelling to you, you don't have to get it. Wow! That would mean that iWork would be even less!
Now, all of that being said, of course if iWork isn't functional for you now you shouldn't get it. But if it is, as this thread has shown that there are a lot of us out here for whom it, in fact, is, then there's no reason for us not to get it. So, all around, I'd argue that iWork is a cost savings over MS Office, even if you upgrade every time.
Plus, if all you need to make it a worthwhile office suite is a spreadsheet, then there are a variety of options at various price points. These include OpenOffice Calc, KOffice KSpread (both free), Mariner Calc, etc.
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